Saudis Arabia isn’t one of them.
At 5:40 Christopher Hitchens destroys Zen Buddhism and Shinto. He names a mind-glowingly thoughtless action by Buddhists, which he calls a contemplative nonsense, and then says, ““The sleep of reason brings forth monsters–and that’s Buddhism–the faith everyone goes to once they’ve exhausted Buddhism.” Continue reading Christopher Hitchens destroys Zen Buddhism and Shinto
Not that surprising.
On an unrelated note a Muslim taxi-driver in Australia whacked an atheist on the head with a crowbar. That’s why people don’t argue about religion in Australia–it’s a survival instinct.
“Christianity hasn’t changed at all; it’s just used to being the thing that dictates what truth and morality are. Now that society is freeing itself, it has nothing to do but scramble for new hosts any way it can.
It can’t become post-modern, because it’s pre-modern. It’s older than the idea that people shouldn’t be enslaved. Older than the idea that rape is a crime against a woman, rather than against the man who owns her. Older than even the word for genocide, because we didn’t invent that word until we realized that murdering an entire race of people might not be okay.
Religion has been a blight on humanity since the day the first con man met the first moron.”
What a great comment. I did however feel empathy toward the author’s writer, even though he hasn’t realized Christianity is not true. I think that the Christians who oppose Trump and who want to actually follow Jesus’s humanistic philosophy are less bad than other Christians who want to follow their church’s leaders and political agendas.
“You know what I was thinking about today? I was thinking about those street gangs they have down in Los Angeles, those Crips and those Bloods. And I was thinkin about that bunch of new laws they came up with in the 1980s, I think it was, to combat those street gangs, those Crips and those Bloods. And, if I remember rightly, the gist of what those new laws were saying was, if you join one of these gangs, and you’re running with them, and down the block one night, unbeknownst to you, one of your fellow Crips or your fellow Bloods shoot up a place or stab a guy…well then, even though you may not know nothing about it and even though you may have just been standing on a street corner, minding your own business..what these new laws said was you’re still culpable. You’re still culpable by the very act of having joined those Crips and those Bloods in the first place. Which got me thinking, Father…that whole type of situation is kinda like you church boys, ain’t it? You got your colors, you got your clubhouse. You’re, for want of a better word, a gang. And if you were upstairs smoking a pipe and reading your Bible…while one of your fellow gang members is downstairs fucking an altar boy, well…Father, just like those Crips and just like those Bloods, you’re culpable..cause you joined the gang, man. I don’t care if you never did shit, you never saw shit, you never heard shit. You joined the gang, you’re culpable. And when a person is culpable to altar boy-fucking, or any kind of boy-fucking, cause I know you guys didn’t really narrow that down…then you kinda forfeit the right to come into my house and say anything about me or my life, or my daughter or my billboards.. So why don’t you just finish up your tea there, Father, and get the fuck out of my kitchen.”
Asian Christians are insane extremists, especially the Koreans whenever they stop being Buddhists. Back in the day I was close to a Korean guy, but his family used to annoy me by practicing playing Christian songs on guitar and singing in the living room when I visited him. They also used to listen to tapes of sermons in Korean when we they gave us rides in their car, and were really judgemental and hot tempered. The church they went to was a megachurch with thousands of Koreans and basically no other race, and the guy would give sermons where he would talk about how wearing a nice suit made him feel good. His face was framed and plastered countless times on the walls in the hallways and I kept telling my friend his pastor was the most egocentric pastor I’d ever seen.
One time I went with him and a Chinese friend and after the sermon he was called to do some volunteer work washing dishes in the kitchen. We decided to volunteer too rather than to leave him there, and the people at the church saw that and told us all that we didn’t have to do it. My Chinese friend and I immediately suspected they were racist, and when we were out of earshot we started joking about how they thought their plates were holy, and that they must never be touched by non-Korean hands! My Korean friend found that funny.
Later on we went to another church where my Chinese friend used to go. We stood in back rather than sitting down when we came late, because we didn’t really want to be there and wanted more freedom, and it let us chat a little. They would put their hands up to bless the children who had come to the stage, and we would joke about how they wanted to direct their chi energy toward the kids like in a Hong Kong flick. At one point I copied the guy on the stage, except I tapped my shoulder first and then stuck it outright in a Hitler salute. We shared peals of repressed laughter, and I think the guy on the stage saw me do it, because he frowned.
I quickly hated that church, and at a later visit at the beginning I stepped out and just sat outside for an hour. When my Korean friend asked why, I told him that I got more inspiration staring at that green hill over there in the distance than I would have inside that building where they were acting like a cult.
In hindsight it makes sense why we eventually quit getting along. From the day he brought me to his church I was skeptical and sarcastic of it, saw the most religious people as crazy hypocrites, and looked suspiciously for corruption in how money was spent at churches even though I believed in the religion. Though he had to become less religious at college because his major contradicted Christianity, he never could completely let go of his crazy religion.
We had some arguments, and our relationship deteriorated faster than it would have if neither of us had been religious. I don’t think he was able to accept when I developed into an atheist and then an anti-theist, and it weighed on him even though he didn’t talk about it much. We talked less and less. At one point I told him excitedly that I had found a new argument that almost surely proved there wasn’t a God, and he cut me off before I could say anything, telling me that whatever it was he didn’t want to hear it. I asked him why, but he didn’t give an answer, although he later told me he was starting to find my atheism annoying and thought it was a hole of nihilism. He also told me a bit before we broke-up that even if it was all fake, he still found it beautiful and wanted to believe in it rather than to live an empty life.
My impression of rich Christians but especially from asia.
Pause to remember the Renaissance which means “rebirth” in French. Christians couldn’t draw, everything was flat 2D because they were focused on their inner spiritual world rather than the external world, and if Christianity were instrumental for progress then we would have advanced sooner within those 1000 years without needing to dig up ancient knowledge from the Greeks (and Romans.) We rediscovered old art and that is when we learned the techniques of foreshadowing and 2 point perspective which had been lost for a thousand years, and then only after reading ancient Greek philosophy were we ready for a scientific method, because Christian thought was always an obstacle. The moment science expanded from neutral topics and started to contradict the Catholic church and its dogma, the church fought back and then you had Galileo’s arrest and other heresy trials.
Ancient Greece was always a more advanced civilization than the most Christian countries that have ever existed during the Dark/Middle Ages because they had a freer spirit of inquiry. It’s a terrible thing when Christianity fights our values, and then when it loses it tries to claim credit for them. DarkMatter2525 made a video about that, titled “The theft of our values.”
A response to when Catholics defend the Galileo and the backwardness of the Middle Ages
You can’t say there was stagnation in the Middle Ages, because Christianity invented the crossbow
Funny how the first examples that you thought of were advancements in weapon technology. Yes, it’s natural for you to think of those because the Middle Ages were a barbaric time full of strife, sectarian violence and holy wars, as during the time when we were the closest to following God’s holy word. That was when we thought about the God and Jesus the most, and followed the bible the more strictly than at any other time in history. The result for Europe was close to hell on Earth, with disease, widespread illiteracy, superstition run amok, systems that perpetuated injustice, anti-Antisemitism, serfdom, disenfranchised women, and the Inquisition.
Now we would expect there to be some technological advances in a thousand years anywhere, but the question is why there wasn’t much more of it during that very Christian time period, and then why did it suddenly change? I don’t think it’s coincidental that when we found ancient knowledge during the Renaissance it triggered a Scientific Revolution. There is something about Greek thought and even its religion with all of the lazy gods which allows for freer thought than Christian monotheism.
Monarchs and elites helped by pushing back against the church; had they not done that then the new printing presses would have printed bibles and theological treatises which were what the handful of literate people (monks) had cared about for centuries. A division of power between church and state helped literate geniuses to communicate and spread revolutionary discoveries when they were separated by hundreds of miles, (and also allowed aristocrats to shield dissidents like Martin Luther who could further weaken the Catholic hegemony.)
Fundamentalist Christianity looked just like Fundamentalist Islam in the Middle East today, but how often do you hear about new scientific discoveries coming out of the Middle East? Their greatest technological advancements today involve breeding camels. If we hadn’t pushed back against the church, then we still would be where the Islamic world is right now, stuck in the 7th century during the 21st century.
It’s no coincidence that the period when we most strictly adhered to Christianity was a time when we fell backward so far that we forgot how to make concrete for one thousand years. Yes, the Romans knew how to do it, and they built the Roman Pantheon with it in 125 AD, and then shortly after most of the population embraced Christianity we lost the technology and literally forgot how to make cement for one thousand years. In fact, I was told when I took Art History at college that we never found the same exact recipe and to this day we still can’t make the same strong concrete in the way that the Romans did at the Pantheon.
I wish to ask you only out of amazed curiosity–whether you feel any embarrassment at arguing in the defense of groups of people who owe you no loyalty and who would absolutely kill you at the drop of a hat if they were still around? Do you really think the Inquisition, or the guys running the Salem witch trials in early Colonial America could be trusted to not back-stab you and be your allies? If not then why on Earth do you think you’re in the right when you try to revise history to defend the actions of such detestable people?
Take the pope, you say he met Galileo. Wonderful, let’s imagine how that might have happened in context.
Galileo wanted to publish a book that contradicted the church’s teachings about an Earth-centered universe. The Pope agrees to meets him, hears his idea and is impressed and says, “Well that sounds like a great idea. I will mandate it and make it the only belief you’re allowed to have.” Galileo then says, “Well that sounds very nice of you, but no thank you, that kind of misses the point.”
Like I said, don’t you feel any embarrassment when your internet posts shield people who banned thousands of books? Or a religious organization that banned the laity from owning a bible for centuries to prevent contradictions or biblical criticism, because it would weaken the authority of the priests?
Don’t you value the free speech that allows you to write what you’re writing on the internet? It seems clear to me that you keep two sets of books, and whenever you walk into a room to argue about religion you leave the book with critical thinking at the door. Religion comes to us with a smiley face and an ingratiating form, but you have no right to forget how it was when it was strong before it lost its claws.
This is an interesting thread:
Continue reading “an atheist dealing with hallucinations of god”
I wasn’t aware of the Meadows massacre.